Question:
Are my reasons legitimate reasons to not support gay marriage?
anonymous
1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC
Are my reasons legitimate reasons to not support gay marriage?
26 answers:
Letter Q
2011-10-28 20:49:12 UTC
no. you just have bullsh*t.

1. just because two men cannot have a baby, wtf does that have to do with marriage? there are plenty of straight couples that don't have kids, so does that mean that they shouldn't be married?

2. If a straight couple has kids, say the dad beats the mom.. is this a good family setting just because there is a mom and a dad? no. it is love that promotes family, not gender. If two men or two women are totally in love, then that is all a 'good family setting' needs. children need someone to look up to, whether it is a single mom, a married man and woman, or two married women. LOVE MAKES FAMILIES. i could go on, but I won't.

3. Damn right, god loves everyone. He even loves you, the judgemental and stuck-up, know-it-all person that you are. WE ARE ALL SINNERS.. every single one of us is a sinner. just as the murderer is a sinner, so are you. so i dont find this to be a "legitimate excuse"



and the damned word is TEMPTATION
Darren
2011-10-28 20:51:01 UTC
Blondie,

I am not gay, but see several problems with your argument.

1. Someone can only choose to be gay if they are bisexual. I did not "choose" to be straight. I've been attracted to the opposite sex for as long as I can remember.

2. By this argument those who cannot have children or are beyond child bearing years should not be able to marry.

3. Certainly most people favor the opposite sex. This insures reproduction of the species. Have you considered that homosexuality may prevent overpopulation of a species? Humans aren't the only mammals to exhibit homosexual behavior.

4. Can you prove this? The only place in the bible that insuates anything like this is the book of Leviticus. Have you read Leviticus? Do you follow any of the other rules of Leviticus? I certainly do not know anyone who does.



I don't hate you, but I think you need to research some more before drawing conclusions.
Raven willcurson
2011-10-28 20:46:45 UTC
https://answersrip.com/question/index?qid=20111028201942AAyR5GI



You sure this user and you aren't the same person?



1. Oh, what the hell? Seriously it's not a choice. Comparing Sexuality and a addictive crutch is like comparing oil to water, they are two very different things. Alcohol and drugs are a choice, sexuality is inborn.

2. Your not up to date on Sperm Donations are you, "Family setting" you have to be kidding me. There has been research done that kids raised in homosexual families actually tend to turn out better...

3. I don't believe you've researched anything from your two other questions

4. "Morally wrong" Your talking about loving murderers and Child molesters, I believe your morally wrong.
?
2011-10-28 20:44:34 UTC
I appreciate your researching this topic, but you're not gay are you? I am. I live it. You can say I'm equal to murderers and child molestors, but I care for people and I teach children, yet for loving the person that I do I am looked upon as a criminal.



If that's what you call research then we should burn all textbooks and academic material because those are supported by facts which clearly you've failed to mention at all.



Now I ask you, where are the facts?
MzCalypso
2011-10-28 20:42:28 UTC
No, they are not.



You can't even spell "temptation." And I suspect your "research" has all been done on homophobic, so-called "christian" anti-gay sites, so, duh, what kind of "evidence" would you get?



I don't CARE what you consider legitimate. I just think it's really peculiar that you keep posting your homophobic ignorance on the GLBT site and expecting us to pat you on the head and tell you what a good girl you are.



go peddle your stuff elsewhere.



By the way, kids raised by same-sex couples, particularly lesbians, are BETTER ADJUSTED and more socially capable than those raised by het couples.



So... think of the CHILLLLDREN. Lesbians should be given adoption priority.
anonymous
2011-10-28 20:41:47 UTC
1. Already illegitimate because you are viewing this from a biased stand-point instead of a logical one.

2. Is that why people raised by a single parent end up leading successful and happy lives? Invalid refute is invalid.

3. Again, that's number one, and you just admitted it to being "higher chances", meaning there will be a probability, which would explain a minority in homosexuals. That was a serious contradiction right there.

4. Not everyone believes in religion, and your religion should not be factored into marriage.
anonymous
2011-10-28 20:41:00 UTC
Damn, these trolls are killing our crops like no other tonight.



Just leave my farm house and picket fence, it took me years to build those.



I'll just re-grow the corn, I guess.
Nickname
2011-10-28 20:39:37 UTC
No. You're incorrect and grossly misinformed.
?
2011-10-28 21:02:58 UTC
If you believe that same sex marriage is wrong for YOU, that is fine. Nobody's forcing you to marry another woman if you don't want to.



But just because same sex marriage would be wrong for you personally doesn't make it wrong for everyone else. That's like the child who says "I hate broccoli, so we should get rid of it and nobody should eat it". Its childish.



And the fact that you "don't support" gay peoples' "way of life" means nothing. You don't get to tell other people how to live their lives -- and gay people don't need your support or your permission.
anonymous
2011-10-28 20:49:17 UTC
No. Those are the most common, and they are the most flawed.



1)Their is scientific evidence that it is not a choice. Even if, you should have no say in how people live their own personall life.

2)Who says that a family has to have a mother and a father? Think open mindedly.

3)I beleive you have researched it

4)You can't bring religion into a debate



These are just my opinions, but I respect yours.
True Love
2011-10-30 18:30:42 UTC
1) Cool! When did you choose to be straight?

2) Right! You're telling me that when the divorce rate is at 50% in America. Also, there are abusive heterosexual parents who don't know how to take care of their own kids. I don't know about you, but when I think about family, I think of an environment where everyone is raised based on love and education.

3) It doesn't take a rocket scientist to disprove your points so I don't know what research you have been doing.

4) God loves everyone. Yes, it says in the bible that homosexuality is a sin. It also says that about tattoos, divorce, eatting shellfish, etc.



It's not a way of life. It's not a choice. So I suggest you turn around and do some further research. This time, pick the more valid argument, it will make you sound less stupid ;)
knitting bear
2011-10-28 21:52:32 UTC
So, you believe that sexuality is not an inborn trait of the person. Interesting that the only things you compare sexuality to are drugs & alcohol. You consider them all temptations (correct spelling, by the way).

You believe that gay people can not promote a family setting. So, children should be raised by a father who beats them & a mother who ignores them rather than 2 men who adore children. Yes, that makes much more sense. You say procreation can not happen without a mother & father. Well, with a little help from science, yes it can. You can hire a womb & buy eggs & sperm to make your child, whether you are gay or straight. Not to mention, there are 7 billion people on the earth, maybe breeding isn't really something we NEED to be doing right now.

You believe that some people may FAVOR the opposite sex but aren't gay. You will need to explain the difference. If a woman feels like puking when she sees a naked guy but swoons when seeing a naked woman, that isn't favoring, that's gay.

I could just chalk this up to your, in my opinion, skewed belief system until you had to throw the moral card into the mix. YOUR morals may not agree with those that believe differently but, IF you were to actually read the holy book you claim to believe in and not rely on the opinions of the preachers & media, you might be surprised. In NO original religious text does any religion forbid homosexuality or say it is sinful. In the story of Soddam & Gomorrah (the religious rights favorite story to use against homosexuality), it wasn't the freedom to have whatever sex they wanted that was the issue, it was the excesses that the people went to that caused them to be marked for destruction.



Instead of reading the newest translation, newest rewriting, of the supposedly holy book, try reading an older, unrevised, unrewritten, unupdated, version. You will be shocked at the liberties that modern religion has taken with the supposed word of your god. I read a bible that was a direct retransscription of an 1877 bible. There is so much less rhetoric in it that I walked away from Christianity and found my true path of beliefs.
Ayana
2011-10-29 00:34:08 UTC
I will address these individually.



1) I believe that everyone has the power to choose their actions. Nobody is "born" gay and I feel like that is an excuse. Its simply another temtatin.like drugs or alcogol, and it might be harder for somepeople than others to abstain from it.

=How could you, as a straight individual, even begin to understand, or have the believe that you know what goes on in some ones head? It isn't a choice. You may believe it is, but as you could believe the sky is yellow and you would still be wrong.



2) Gay marriage does not promote family settings. Children should be reared by a loving mother and father, and procreation is cannot happen without a man and a woman.

=Should we start taking children out of single parent homes because they do not have a mother and a father?



3) I have researched this subject thoroughly, and don't consider myself misinformed. I truly believe that people may be born with higher chances of favoringbthe opposite sex, but I don't believe that people are born gay.

=You need to research it more. The brain structure of gay men and women is different than that of straight men and women. You cannot choose that.



4) It's morally wrong. Yes, God lovea everyone, even gays. He also loves murderers and child molesters, but that does not mean that he approves of their sinful actions, so I.don't consider this a legitimate excuse.

=We live in a secular country. That means we are not governed by the bible or biblical laws. Divorce is not allowed in the bible, and we allow it. Remarrying is not allowed in the bible, and we allow that. Women speaking in church is not allowed in the bible, but we allow that. Wearing two different materials is not allowed in the bible, but we allow that. Premarital sex is not allowed in the bible, but we allow that. Women are not permitted to speak out against her husband in the bible, but we allow that. Children are stoned to death for disobedience in the bible, but we don't do that. Worshiping Gods other than the biblical God is not permitted in the bible, but we allow that.



I do not find you hateful in the slightest. But you are very misinformed, even if you don't see it. Misinformed people never see it really.. If they did, they would no longer be misinformed. None of your reasons are legitimate.



If you are in the USA, then think of this. By law, all people are guaranteed equal rights. Marriage in this country is a Civil Right. It is a contract. Something that is Secular, and made religious only if you choose it to be. Holy Matrimony is a religious institution. In this country, Marriage is a secular one.



Here I will quote part of the 14th Amendment.



"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."



And now I will quote part of the Declaration of Independence.



"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
Mark
2011-10-28 22:42:14 UTC
I don't personally agree with you, but you have a right to speak your mind.



1) Marriage in general is pointless. It's just another way to label yourself and receive special treatment and "benefits", others it's just an out of date ritual. So if gay people choose to get married, why are you concerned? Are you paying for the weeding?



2) A family setting includes two loving and supporting parents. The sexuality or gender doesn't matter. Gay parents are better than no parents, besides children should be aware of homosexuality a younger age, so they'll be able to accept people later on in life.



3) We are who we are. How can homosexuality be a choice and heterosexuality is "normal", sounds like a double standard.



4) I personally don't believe in god, so let's take religion out for a minute. I don't understand how someones sexuality, something that's innate, could be morally wrong and i can't believe you're comparing murderers with homosexuals. That's offensive.
Kennedy Flair †
2011-10-28 20:56:46 UTC
1) This suggests that all straight people have the temptation or urge to love the same sex but dont. Its not a choice. I didnt choose to lose several friends and family members, ive been verbally attacked multiple times, ive been threatened twice, ive been in one fight over my sexuality. No one would CHOOSE that. I assume you arent gay. You will NEVER go through what a gay teen has to go through. "Sexual temptation" isnt worth my family, friendships and physical well-being.

2) Gay parents are better than growing up in a fckin orphanage or in the system. I know kids with same sex parents, they are wonderful, straight, open-minded people.

3) It kills me when straight want to tell me why i like the same sex. I've been living with it my whole life.

4) God is your personal belief. You DO NOT have the right to impose it on others. I dont have to believe in your god. also, we are not fighting to be married in a church by a pastor. We are fighting for the same LEGAL (not religious) rights. It doesnt have a damn thing to do with god or whatever. America is a democracy where all people are supposed to equal and free, not a theocracy where the bible is the law.



And even if it is a temptation, we are always going to be here and we arent going to change. A same-sex marriage may not be right for you, but why do we have to suffer?
Charlie
2011-10-28 21:20:47 UTC
1. Nobody is "born" gay just like nobody is "born" straight, right? I can't help that I feel nothing romantic or sexual towards men, nor can I change it. It's not about sex, either; it's about love. I want a deep emotional connection with someone, and it just so happens that I can only have such a deep relationship with a woman.

2. So single parents shouldn't be allowed to have children either? Personally I wouldn't give a **** if I had two moms, two dads, or a mom and a dad. As long as someone loves me and cares for me, that's all I care about. I've also never heard anyone who has gay parents say that they feel something is "missing" in their life. As for procreation, is that the only meaning for marriage? What about love and commitment? What about people who can't have children or choose not to? How about those who opt for en vitro fertilization?

3. I can see your point there, as I believe that everyone is to some degree bisexual. However, there isn't any explanation as to why I never felt any attraction to men even at a young age. I had male friends but I was never as close to them as my female friends. I also had trouble picturing myself getting married, because the image of a man and woman together didn't fit in my mind. I don't want to marry a person of the opposite sex as much as you don't want to marry someone of the same-sex. That's just that.

4. So is it not sinful to lie and pretend to love someone you never can, and even marry them and have a family? Does God really want you to be unhappy and hurt others in the process because you weren't true to yourself? It would be a sinful action for me to marry a man whom I knew I could never love, not to marry a woman who I love with every ounce of my soul.



I know I'm not going to change your mind, but I might as well try to help you understand this issue from my perspective. If someone told you that marrying the person you love is wrong because of what gender they are, wouldn't that infuriate you? No one chooses to be gay or straight. That's just how you are. You can choose whether or not to be true to yourself and be happy, and to accept others happiness.
anonymous
2011-10-28 20:52:30 UTC
1. Nobody is born straight, either.

2. Not all men and women cannot have children, and many who do don't want them.

3. You already said this in point 1.

4. You think it's morally wrong. I don't.



I don't hate you, but you are completely misinformed and should mind your own business. If you aren't gay, then why do you care about gay marriage?
?
2011-10-29 14:32:57 UTC
Matthew5:7

Blessed are the merciful for they will be shown mercy.





"Women should be silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak, but should be submissive, as the law also says." (1 Corinthians 14:34)



"But if ... evidences of virginity are not found for the young woman, then they shall bring out the young woman to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her to death with stones..." (Deuteronomy 22:20,21)



"If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter into life maimed, rather than having two hands, to go to hell, into the fire that shall never be quenched." (Mark 9:43)



"Slaves, obey your human masters with fear and trembling, in the sincerity of your heart, as to Christ." (Ephesians 6:5)



"Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the cruel. " (1 Peter 2:18)



If the mother gives birth to a boy, she is unclean for 7 days.

if the mother gives birth to a girl, she is unclean for 14 days.

Why then the girls are so dirty?

Everything the woman touches, sits on, lies on etc is unclean:

(Leviticus 15:19)



"When a woman has her regular flow of blood, the impurity of her monthly period will last seven days, and anyone who touches her will be unclean till evening."

(Leviticus 15:20



So do you own slaves? Have your period? The bible says you should own them and it also says you are sinning when you have that period.



Either you believe the entire bible or none of it, you don't get to pick and choose what to believe.
Mick
2011-10-28 21:36:38 UTC
1) You can choose who you date/sleep with but not who you are attracted to, that is genetic and can not be changed.

2) News Flash gay people have families just like everyone else, so does having a single parent ruin the family setting? Cause something like 40% of all parents are single parents. Link to study showing that children with two moms do better then ones with a mom and dad.

http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1994480,00.html

3) Clearly you haven't or you would have come across the dozens of Scientific studies that prove homosexuality is linked to genetics.

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2010/07/09/genetic-switch-makes-female-mice-try-to-mate-with-other-females/



http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,316316,00.html



4)Who says your god is real? If he is real he makes everyone and your born gay so he makes people gay and since he doesn't make mistakes he want them to be gay.



5)Try reading your bible, it also says wearing clothing of mix fabrics is a sin and that women on their period should be locked in a shed.
pretty azn girl
2011-10-28 20:45:15 UTC
I'm not gonna tell you what you should or should not believe or what's right and what's wrong but I'm telling you to respect people's sexuality because that's who they are. I understand that you don't support gay marriage and that's fine but just discriminate. I on other hand support gay marriage and believe that love is love and people have the right to be happy.
Joly
2011-10-28 20:51:01 UTC
No, no freaking reason is legitimate!



There's absolutely nothing wrong with two people of the same sex getting married!



And also, two men and two women are just as capable of raising children as a man and a woman are!



I honestly think you are a sick person!
JimmyLee
2011-10-28 21:17:56 UTC
No.



You tried your best but these reasons have been proven not only illegitimate, but also offensive and completely wrong over and over again. If you're going to make up reason as to why you think gay marriage shouldn't be legal, at least be creative and original...
anonymous
2011-10-28 20:39:12 UTC
NO REASON is legitimate against gay marriage.



1) I guess you're so powerful you chose straight over gay.



2) I kinda agree with this one but what about single mothers/fathers?



3) Because we choose to be beaten up, stared at, mocked, harassed, have society's disapproval and get kicked out and disowned.



4) As far as I'm concerned, your God does not exist and if he did this world would be this perfect place that is portrayed in your religion. If God truly created people, he created the straight man, then he must have also created the gay man.



The only research you've done is through your church which usually doesn't hold factual statements or beliefs supported by evidence no other than a book created by angry and manipulative people hundreds of years ago. Do your research again, and this time through reality, 2011 and science, not man made crap made to scare the naive, fearing and ignorant.
pepgurli
2011-10-30 15:15:43 UTC
Yes because everyone has a right to their opinion.
anonymous
2011-10-28 20:45:01 UTC
If you're against about gay marriages , then dont waste your minutes about this. No one is listening anyways.
Dass
2011-10-28 20:38:53 UTC
No. Not at all.


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