Question:
My aunt Beverly is transgendered and my mom says she will burn in hell for this?
mageapprentice
2006-04-16 17:13:24 UTC
My mom says my aunt is really a man named Ken who got his weenie cut off and took some pills so he could wear a dress. She also says he will burn in hell for doing this. She didn't want me to see her, because mom says he will corrupt me and I'll burn in hell, also.

I think she is being mean by calling my aunt a boy. I can't see her being anything but a girl. I have seen her in a bathing suit and I think my mom is playing a joke on me, but my aunt knows boy stuff like how to work on cars and stuff.

I know my aunt has had her feelings hurt because I saw tears going down her cheek after my mom and her got in an argument. Mom also doesn't want me to call her she- she wants me to call her him and sir- I'm confused?

My aunt went to a wedding and dressed like a boy in a suit, but she looked like a girl in boys clothes.

My aunt let me use her Yahoo! account to ask this and she typed it for me.
22 answers:
thaliax
2006-04-16 17:23:38 UTC
Your mom has issues. It doesn't matter what your aunt is (or was), or how she lives her life. Like all human beings, she is to be loved for who she is.



However, this is your mother you're talking about, and it's important to respect her feelings, too.



Why is your mom so intolerant of transgendered people? If there's any gentle way of asking her that, it might provide some revealing information. Perhaps ask her why it bothers her so much. Her fear may be completely irrational, or she may have other problems with your aunt that she hasn't even told you about yet.



If you love your aunt, then enjoy her company. And enjoy your mom's company, also. But do understand that the rift between them may be so very deep that you'll have to enjoy their company separately.



You might ask your mother, the next time she threatens you with hellfire, where in the Bible it says that hanging around with transgendered persons will send you to hell. I suspect she's going to have a hard time finding that chapter and verse.
Acceleration
2006-04-17 07:18:52 UTC
I hate people who are against LGBT people just because of their religion, I mean COME ON. Doesn't God tell us all to love everybody? Why can't your mom love your aunt? I mean, she is also a human being, and as a human being we're all the different which make us all the same in a way.



I say your aunt ROCKS! She really has guts for doing something like this, for believing and following something she wanted. I know I'd be too scared to do that, and I hope your mom sees this too and how hard it is already for LBGT people, and that family should love each other no matter what.
Sparkier
2006-04-17 03:22:38 UTC
This is a big world with huge problems and were all born here to learn our lessons in my humble opinion. Your Aunts lesson has been lived out and she must be a very brave woman to have done what she has done and faced the consequnces of an obviously very religious Sister. God(or the Gods as I belive) loves and supports us all and gives us all choices. For your Aunt to have not been Transgender would have been denying the lesson she was born to live. She deserves a lot of respect. Your Mother is wrong. I also think you're very brave or standing up for her. I hope things work out for you. Your Aunts been through a tough enough time as it is. If your Aunt is going to 'Burn in Hell' for taking pills, having surgery and living courageusly then hells going to get full up pretty quickly isn't it? Good luck.
boifriday
2006-04-17 08:29:43 UTC
In my opinion, your Aunt will in no way burn in hell, and there's certainly no way she could corrupt you.



Ask yourself, are you a boy or a girl, deep inside? You know the answer. Now look at your body. Is it the same as the way you feel you should be? If the answer is yes, then there's nothing your Aunt could do to change that.



Your Aunt, when she asked herself that question, found that while she knew she was a girl inside, it didn't match the outside, which is why she needed help to change that. It hasn't changed who she was before, just the way she looks.



I believe that God would not punish anyone who made changes to themselves in order to help them love themselves. If God is love, then God wants us to love ourselves, so that we can love others just as much. If your body doesn't match up with how you know you are supposed to be, it's hard to love yourself.



Your Aunt is a very brave person for being the person she knows she was meant to be, and you're a great person for loving her and believing in her. Maybe your Mom doesn't understand the experiences your Aunt has had - sometimes people don't. However, just because she is your Mom doesn't mean she is always right. This time, I don't think she's right.
Sum_Guy
2006-04-17 00:44:29 UTC
Sometimes people feel that they were meant to be a member of the opposite gender, but some mistake was made and they were born with a body that did not match the way they feel. It is possible for a skilled doctor to turn a man into a woman, but it is a very long, difficult and painful process.

Many religious people like your mother believe this is wrong because they think that God cannot make mistakes. But no-one really understands how we get the personalities we have, so they just try to ignore it and get angry at anyone who says anything that is diffrent.
2006-04-17 00:29:48 UTC
Well, what a question. Firstly, it is entirely up to your Aunt how she wants to be considered, man or lady. Your mother sounds like a bigoted person who needs some sort of professional help. For your mother to think of her own relative in this way is right out of the dark ages, perhaps she would be happy with a good burning at the stake? Transgendered people have nothing to be ashamed of and the last thing that they need is for someone like your mother to put them down. Has your mother ever heard of words like support, compassion, understanding? I seriously doubt it. Perhaps it is your mother who will "burn in hell" when the day of reckoning comes. There is an old saying that i quite like, it goes something like this; do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Maybe your mother should take a leaf out of your Aunts book and be brave enough to stand up and face the problem, take the time to explain to uneducated people about Transgenderism and then get on with her life and stop worrying about other people's.
MYRAJEAN
2006-04-17 02:11:31 UTC
WOW. Your aunt is your aunt she is a female to you, i am assuming you never knew her as a man. You have a relationship with your aunt and that relationship is built first on love, second she is a member of your family the twenty or thirty issues is her sex, what i am saying is that her sexual id is not that important. What is important is how she treats you and how you feel about your aunt. next time your mom starts bashing your aunt, tell her you love your aunt and wish she would not talk bad about her in front of you. If your mother really did not want you to have a relationship with your aunt she would not let the aunt around you.. How does your father feel about this sustain, is he in the picture , could it possible be that your aunt is really your father? would explain your mother bitterness and why she still let your aunt be a part of your life.
jombojolly
2006-04-17 00:30:56 UTC
mageapprentice~

First of all, if you are real, and this IS a real situation, I applaud you for being brave and speaking of such real life things in a forum like this. Second of all, if you are NOT real, and this is a joke for laughs, know that this is a real life story of someone who is out there feeling confused and bewildered.Now,

Look at the positive comments so far on this board. I love them. So many people are giving such kind, loving advice. There are many people, in fact I think the number is now about one in every 20, 000 births who are currently born "Intersex" which means they either are a hermaphrodite, or a person having the genitals of BOTH female & male, or they are internally created as one sex, but the opposite sex is apparent externally. This is not an easy subject for many to study or discuss but there are so many differences among us in this world - if any of us really knew of all the true varieties of human beings born in this world, we'd be amazed.

Assuming, for the sake of an answer, that mageapprentice is indeed a young person struggling with their aunt's sexual identity, I say, talk to your aunt about this struggle you have. She will probably relish the conversation because she probably lives closeted so much of her life. Let her help you understand. Remember, we all walk different paths but as long as we are open, receptive and listen in love, we will come to understand even the most difficult concepts. Peace be with you and with your blessed aunt (who surely has had much to deal with in her life.)
druid_seeker
2006-04-17 04:29:47 UTC
first of all, iced_snow and aachen are absolutely, 100% wrong! you'll be happy to know that. secondly, there are lots of reason why people feel that they are not the gender that they were born with. it sounds like your aunt is someone who is known as transgendered, that is SHE is someone who was born as one gender and identified as the opposite. what do i mean by identified? she knew deep down in her mind and heart that she was a woman. many people who know her well may know her past, many probably do not. is she lying? i suppose, but this is done probably for her safety because people like the two people who i mentioned above put horrible fears into people just like you and me. when that happens people who are different, like your aunt, sometimes have to fear for their safety. she is your aunt, you may refer to her as a her, she, ma'am, etc. it might piss off your mom, but your mom is still wrong.



here's the funny thing. all you can do is treat your aunt with respect. if your mom doesn't like it, or screams at you, or punishes you, that's fine. she can even deny what you've said to be true. but she's still wrong. and that's all there is to it. and ask your aunt sometime to help you uinderstand. just because you talk to her about it doesn't mean that you will be transgendered, you'll just be a better person for taking the time to understand and respect a person, and a family member, who is different from you.
joe_junior69
2006-04-17 00:30:29 UTC
The bible says we shouldn't say who should assend into heaven, and who should desend into hell. This is not for us to judge. Your aunt is no more a sinner than anyone else who ever walked this Earth besides Jesus, but the bible dose say what she doing is a sin. The problem with this is that there is nothiing she can do to change this about her self . There is hope however. If your Aunt is serious about Jesus then you should tell her to seek for God to change her. To change her very desires and nature. God knows our struggles. He knows how hard they are for us. There is no unforgiveable sin. There is no one who is to bad for the kingdom of heaven . If she says that what she is doing is ok, then tell her she better be VERY sure. The price is very great. non the less God is a just God. Try to take comfort in that.
ecloi
2006-04-17 15:28:28 UTC
Your Mom must be VERY wise to know what God thinks. I am envious that she gets one on one conversations with God to know how he feels about such worldly important things such as transgenderism. But am very hurt and deeply disappointed that God is so hateful over someone he fashioned in his own image. I would've taken God for a loving God. I thought God made us all differnet for a reason, but it seems that God wants everyone to fit into the mold that makes your mother feel comfortable. I am very disheartened and now question everything I beleive in. I am very sad now and have a lot of soul seaching to do because my world has been turned upside down.



Please thank your mom for the reality check.
portlandia
2006-04-17 01:17:12 UTC
It sounds like your mom will burn in hell for being so judgemental. Your Aunt and her creator will have it out in eternity, just like your mom and her creator will, too. What goes around comes around. Stand up for what you believe and if you believe in your aunt, stand up for her to your mom...You call your aunt what you want...
Vonnie
2006-04-17 17:47:58 UTC
God Loves all of his children no matter what they are doing he never leaves them nor forsake them. We can't put anyone in Hell or Heaven only God can. All we can do is repent for our sins daily and try to live a good life.
horse freak
2006-04-17 01:09:08 UTC
she will not burn in hell for this. Does your mother have proof that this happened? I mean, really! your mother could just be trying to brainwash you so that you'll hate your aunt. confront your mother and say "I want to know the truth!"
2006-04-17 00:20:36 UTC
ok listen, you dont have to belive every thing your mom says. tell your grandmother & ask her about this. if your religous than i'm sorry. but if your not & you dont belive in that stuff than life is much easyer. just treat your aunt like you used to. maybe your mom is just a *****. soory but sumtimes its true.
icedsnow06
2006-04-17 00:27:27 UTC
GOD does not make mistakes I usually refer to Sodom and Gomorrah when I hear of things like this....in that city sex was horrible, out of marriage sex, woman and women, men and men....in the end GOD destroyed the city because of their sin...DNA testing can still prove that he is a man so if he is sleeping with other men trying to convince them that he is a woman he is defying God plus lying to people about who he really is....as far as him going to hell...no one know for sure until judgment day BUT the only try way to insure that he doesn't go to hell is to truly repent to GOD seek professional help and seek the Lord to help him understand his feelings... obviously there are underlying issues maybe abuse as a child etc....God forgives everyone who truly repents sin and he remembers them no more however he must do a total lifestyle change including being reborn and not reverting back to his old ways....No one will judge him for seeking help and those that do will have to answer to God themselves one day... but your Uncle won't because his sin will be covered by the blood and remembered no more...I Pray that someone crosses his path to help him realize the err of his ways and helps him to turn his life around... He is lucky to have family that is concerned for his eternal soul....Pray unceasingly
blindgaurdian23
2006-04-17 00:18:14 UTC
oyour mom is not god remeber this, and who does not accept their family for other reasons than betrayl they them selves are iggnorant and are just as likly to burn, accept you aunt/uncle and love them, they are family and will always be, if your mother has such hatred in her heart that shecannot except her brother for the way he/she is, that dosnt mean you should follow her ways
2006-04-17 00:23:10 UTC
your aunt can't help who she is. if god wanted us all to be the same, why did he make us all different?
lunareclipse4
2006-04-17 00:16:58 UTC
your aunt couldn't help what she/he felt she is a human being no matter what, love her for who she is now she is still a person x
rescueteam5
2006-04-17 00:17:00 UTC
Thank you for making my own family seem normal.. and good luck to you. hopefully things work out.
2006-04-17 00:16:38 UTC
well i dont think its right to accuse some1 of being what they are. God loves you no matter what.
aachen
2006-04-17 02:07:34 UTC
dont worry its true, he'll burn


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