Why do people think the fact that Jesus says nothing on homosexuality is even relevant?

Question

So what? Jesus says nothing directly about homosexuality. Let me tell you something, the rest of the Bible does, and it's clear as day. Homosexuality is condemned as a sin numerous times in the Bible. Also, Jesus does talk about marriage, and it is always between one man and one woman. I just don't understand how homosexual advocates can say that Jesus/the Bible commends homosexuality. Is there something I'm missing? Cause to me, it's extremely obvious.

Answer 1

Well, there are a couple of things you're missing.



1) In mainstream Christian theology, Christ is God. That gives Him the power to overturn the Law, which He did by dying on the cross. That's why Christians don't follow, for example, the Jewish dietary laws. We are no longer under those. That would also be why prohibitions on homosexuality in the Old Testament are invalid - they're part of the very same Law that Christ set aside. That being the case, it's kind of important that Christ never mentions homosexuality. If He set aside the Law except fort that part, don't you think He'd have brought it up at some point?



2) The only place in the New Testament where homosexuality is unequivocally mentioned is in the letter of Paul to, I believe, the Romans. If you read it in context, he's not actually condemning homosexuality. He's condemning the Romans' attitudes towards a lot of things (that being among them) and essentially telling them to shut up about it.



3) Back to the Christ being God thing: if it were important to God, don't you think He'd have said something about it? Conversely, as He didn't say anything about it, why do you think it's important?



Truth to tell, I expect you to ignore this completely, but I would be curious how you respond to it.

Answer 2

I don't think anyone would say that the bible commends homosexuality at all. Only, that much of what the bible says about homosexuality is in the old testament, which is no longer relevant as a moral standard.



Should one use the bible as a moral guide-- and much of what is morally dictated in the bible, is in the old testament-- then how does one decide which parts of it are STILL morally relevant today?



Do you believe that adulterers should be stoned to death, along with children who disobey their parents, or women who have sex out of wedlock? The bible does. The bible also says that any woman who divorces her husband and remarries has committed adultery. The old testament condones the selling of slaves, the burning of witches, and commands that all women keep quiet and obey men. Is any of this still relevant?



If you believe so, then you should sell all of your material possessions and live poor as Jesus asked you to.



The issue with using the bible as a modern moral guide is that those who profess to be Christian seem to pick and choose which parts to abide by, ignoring all of the messier parts.

Answer 3

If Jesus said nothing on the issue, then automatically, God considers the issue not worth mentioning. Because Jesus is God, is he not?



Also, the "numerous" times are only a few, and they are in the old testament. And the gospels of Matthew and Luke state that the death of Jesus on the cross rendered old testament law invalid for Christians, since those laws applied to the Jews. Hence, the Bible no longer condemns homosexuality for Christians.

Answer 4

Of the very few references compared to other so called sins, they are;



1. Doubted by scholars on the subject to have been translated accurately. Languages change, if such books aren't updated regularly and accurately, they can lose a lot of meaning.



2. Just as anything else in the bible, -written by people-. Read that nice and slow. Humans are subject to error and bias, especially when translating and creating new versions of things over the years.



3. One of many things the bible supposedly condemns that is part of common accepted life. If you ever read it, and I suggest reading many different versions (and translations if you know other languages), studying them, etc, you'll realize quite a few things in there are condemned, things that specifically are even considered normal and ok.



4. Not something that should effect the law. Assuming you don't live in a theocracy where your religion controls the government, of course. Marriage is a secular, legal document in places such as America, England, Australia, pretty much anywhere that isn't a theocracy. This is something you can even verify with your local government yourself. A church may reserve to the right to deny anyone they wish from marrying at that specific church, however a religion does not reserve the right to tell the government who can and cannot marry.



5. Not something your religious figure sounds like he'd condemn, considering it does absolutely nothing to harm anyone or deprive them nor others of their rights nor privacy. After all, he is displayed as this "omni-reasonable" sort of person that wouldn't consider such things any worse than a kid lying that they finished all their broccoli when they really ate all but one, if he had to consider it bad at all.

Answer 5

You're missing the fact that there isn't a flying wizard in the sky who grants wishes. To me that was obvious. Maybe you should start forming opinions based off of fact and reasoning rather than what some old book has to say.

Answer 6

The Bible does indeed condemn homosexuality, but historically well-educated people understand that ancient peoples had what they thought were good reasons to do so. That modern people still take seriously the social and sexual prescriptions of such an ancient book, one produced by a couple of ancient middle-eastern cultures/groups and reflecting their specific needs, fears, problems, and myths, and use it to run their lives and mistreat other people is quite astonishing to me.



It's even more astonishing that they think it's acceptable to pick and choose which prescriptions they accept. The Bible says a lot of things that we no longer accept. Why, then, accept what it says about homosexuality?

Answer 7

The Bible wasn't written by God or Jesus, it was written by men. That fact alone should be enough proof for anyone that it's total bullsh*t, let alone all the blatant bullsh*t that's actually written in it.



No one here gives a f*** about what the bible does or doesn't say. Xx

Answer 8

I wish they would of let my 1st answer through. But I'm sure it offended them. Wasnt meaning to do that but it was the truth, and people are afraid of truth.

It doesn't matter if you all don't believe Jesus didn't condem it. He didn't condem smoking but we know it's bad for our health. Please wake up. Gods word is final whether you believe it or not. Let me ask you how many of you are in the hospital having surgery because of your sexual life style? Is that normal. To change yourself or reconstruct your body parts? Is that what the bible teaches you? It is people who are devoid of any morality that they become a sick community just like Sodem and Gohmorah, and the world at the time of the great flood. So you all can say whatever you want Gods word stands alone and you can lie and make up al the stuff you want about it to fit your life styles but it is wrong behavioral patterns and that's that. But God loves you as the person but not your sinful life styles.

Answer 9

If you're a true Christian, the entire rest of the Bible is irrelevant, only what Jesus himself said (or allegedly said) matters, not Moses and not Paul. If being gay or having gay sex was the obsession with him that it is with modern Christian posers, wouldn't he have mentioned it at least once in his sermons?

Answer 10

The bible also says not to wear clothes of two different fabrics.

Oh, and it also says that you shouldn't eat your lamb and tuna fish on the same plate.

These are all "abominations".

Just because the book you were raised on states something that doesn't automatically mean that everyone must abide by it and hell, some of us are born not to.

i have my own relationship with God and unlike you I don't need a book to tell me how to live my life.

Answer 11

Why do people think the fact that Bible said anything is even relevant?



Your religion is stupid.

Answer 12

"I just don't understand how homosexual advocates can say that Jesus/the Bible commends homosexuality."



Do they?



If you're going to follow *one* of the instructions given in Leviticus, I trust that you'll follow them *all*.

Answer 13

The Bible makes only 2 veiled references to homosexuality, and neither statement came from God or Jesus.



So don't you think it's a bit pretentious to shove words in their mouth by saying it's wrong?



Jesus says love your fellow man. Would that mean he's saying we're all supposed to be gay?

Answer 14

Oy gevalta shmalta! Christians.....smh

Answer 15

And you're NOT a sinner? Maybe you should crawl out of your own hypocritical sacral region

Answer 16

"The wages sin pays is death." Romans 6:23



That's pretty clear, is it not?