Pre-op trannies and post-ops.?

Question

Do Pre-Op's have a different mindset or attitude than Post- ops?
Do Pre-Op's and those called 'trannie lovers' look at Post- Ops differently?
Does the trannie mystique leave the same time little pete gets snipped off, or added on?
This is for M-F and F-M.

Answer 1

Uh... I'm sure everyone has a different sort of mindset/attitude/etcetcetc from everyone else, regardless of whether they're pre--op, post-op, non-op, or heteronormal, or whatever.

But in the general sense of if there's a big difference between the thinking of pre-op and post-op... Not really, except post-op people feel more complete and confident. The pre-op transsexual tends to be depressed and struggling a lot, especially pre-HRT too, though post-op can and DOES involve struggle, though still it makes life a lot better.

If I knew another transguy and he got an operation I wouldn't look at him any different, I'd just probably envy him a little but congradulate him... whatever.

Answer 2

First of all; there is no such thing as 'pre-op trannies' or 'post-op trannies'.



'Trannies' is a derogatory abbreviation of 'transvestite'; a man who wears women's clothing. Such men neither need, nor want, the surgery you're referring to.



'trannie lovers' (sic) - those men who are fascinated with pre-op transsexual women - are not interested in post-op women at all. Their fascination is with the penis, not the person, so, yes, for those people, the 'mystique' does leave after surgery.



Transsexual people don't really have a 'different mindset' depending on whether they've had surgery or not.

Many transpeople, at the beginning of transition, regard surgery as some sort of 'holy grail'; it's the ultimate goal, and the event that will validate their existence. As time progresses, most of us realise that this is an illusion; surgery doesn't define who you are, and is actually irrelevant to anyone else 98% of the time. It's only purpose is to allow you to feel comfortable in your own body; a transsexual woman is a woman, and a transsexual man is a man, regardless, and will think and behave accordingly.

Answer 3

Everyone's mindset I'm sure is different. That's what makes us all unique individuals. But as far as feeling like a "real" man or a "real" woman, I can tell you that for most transgender people it doesn't matter. We are what we are, regardless.

Now there are trans people who seem to exhibit more self-hate as pre-ops. Mostly because of being constantly reminded that they have something there that shouldn't be. That and OTHER people don't view them as "real" until they've had surgery. It's like people don't view them as really serious until they've gone that step. It's like otherwise they just view it as a "phase" or something.



Do I look at post-ops differently? No, and I'm pre-op. But thsoe that you called 'tranny lovers"..yeah, sometimes THEY do. I know men who will not date a pre-op transwoman, and I know lesbians that won't date post-op transmen. Makes sense I guess, but I think if you have an orientation, you should be attracted to more than the sexual organs of that person. You should be attracted to them AS a person, and that includes how they express their gender identity. People are more than the sexual organs between their legs.

And I'm not sure what you mean by "tranny mystique". But I do know that I'm DAMN tired of people viewing me as just some sexual fetish to explore. So does that go away post-surgery? Who knows? I don't because I'm pre-op. And I'll probably never get bottom surgery. Because I'm just not happy with the results you get at this point. But because of that, I've had so called "straight men" want to sleep with me because they can justify it in their minds as "oh you still have a p***y". No. NO NO NO NO NO. F**k you. Why do you think that just because I have a p***y, that I 1) want something inside it, and 2) am interested in YOU f**king ME? Why can't *I* f**k YOU? It's that whole mindset of going back to gender roles and that females or people with female anatomy should be submissive and "real" males with penises should be dominant. The whole idea of "the power behind the penis" really pisses me off.

Answer 4

I have to agree with Kira. I'd like to add that post-ops do change their perspective of transition, surgery and gender over time.



Most Tranny lovers I've spoken to (a ton of them over the course of 12 years), prefer pre-op m2f's. My take on it is that they are bisexual and prefer the "male/female mix" and most see post-ops as "less exotic" because their anatomy is no different than natal born women.



FYI, the penis is not "snipped off", it is reconstructed and inverted to create a vaginal cavity.

Answer 5

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