So -- what do you think of Y!A people threatening to out you in real life?

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So -- what do you think of Y!A people threatening to out you in real life?
In reference to me telling people that therapy is the best option, but if they have no other alternative (such as people in third world countries, those with unsupportive families, and so forth), about where to get blockers to delay puberty (by linking to mailing lists and notes from the major TS support sites, like Andrea James' TS Roadmap):

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From: ((PJ))
Reply-to: theiremail@theirdomain
To: ((Anonymouse))
Subject: Re: And THIS is why I help people get blockers....
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 16:08:40 -0800 (PST) (11/07/2010 06:08:40 PM)

here's the deal. if i see one more post of you talking about hormones on y/a to children....everybody in ((YourCity)), ((CityYouWentToCollege)), ((SomeOtherCity)) and even ((Relative)) in ((SomeOtherCity)) are going to start hearing about the man in a dress pushing drugs to children. that means your close associates there at work and at the university, as well as the ((State)) st police. stop it right now...this crusade can't be worth it.....leave the children alone!!!

that's all. pj
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There is, of course, no legal case for linking people to information, nor is even the importation of them illegal if kept under a 90 day supply and for personal use. The major TS support sites have sections that provide this information already (tsroadmap.com, annelawrence.com, etc). And I am proud of providing this information to people who have no other options. But I'm also stealth, and here we have someone who knows I am stealth and is threatening to out me in real life because they disagree with me on Y!A (instead of just stating their disagreement).

(The info they have about me is because I sent a friendly email early on introducing myself... not knowing that this person is the vengeful type. Stupid, I know)

Regardless of your opinion on the merits of DIY, what do you all think about outing people in their real life over online disagreements?

Answer 1

Call the cops, there are indeed measures to take against online harassment.



At a minimum, speak to a local GLBT group. Ask for them to help you file a harassment complaint.



Harassment is harassment, for shame on whichever user betrayed the trust of another member of this community.

Answer 2

PJ is the worst of the worst. This is harassment, and you can report her to the police.



How does she know your real address anyway? How would she follow through with those threats?



There's absolutely nothing wrong with what you're doing. People need to know about these resources to live happy and fulfilled lives. The websites don't sell to people under the age of 18 anyway. So her "children" argument is null.

Answer 3

That sure is beyond repugnant! I wonder what their motivation is, and what the hell they are thinking. (Or NOT thinking, rather.) I don't support anyone forcefully outing ANYONE as ANYTHING. Coming out is plenty hard enough as it is, without having to deal with blackmail like that.



Also: I agree with linking people to information about hormone blockers, etc, anyway. If you're transsexual and you go through puberty as the wrong sex, not only is it going to be incredibly traumatic, but there are also going to be irreversible changes! And that will mean that when you DO transition later on, you will have a much harder time getting the body you want + being able to pass in general. Which sucks.. It is people's LIVES we are talking about here! Going through puberty as the wrong sex could potentially screw up their entire future!! I'm sure that if I had been transsexual, and I had been forced to go through those changes that I never wanted, knowing that it EASILY could have been avoided, I would have become incredibly bitter. :(



Plus, even though puberty is NOT reversible, hormone blockers very much ARE! If they change their mind and decide not to transition, they can just stop taking them, and they will go through puberty as their biological sex. So I don't really see why it should be such a major outcry against it.



..Oh well. You probably agree with me anyway. Just felt like ranting. And yeah.. You have my full support. :)

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Answer 5

Wow... that was ridicules. Who ever sent you that is not only evil and selfish, but stupid on so many levels. I couldn't imagine somebody pulling that on me. That'd scare the hell out of me.



You did nothing wrong.



EDIT: Can you report her for abuse? I'm not sure if you can, but I don't know. It's worth a shot.



@Deminted Enigma: You mean Nicky... or the other Pj... the silly one?



EDIT: Ok... I'm still kinda wondering though if you mean pjband...



IT"S HER!!!!

Answer 6

I think those people need to get off the computer for once and get an actual life.



Really though, there are a lot of stupid people online. I suppose it's where a lot of low self esteem folks go so they may hide behind a computer. :S

Answer 7

Too many douches online. They should get a life. =/ I wish you good luck

Answer 8

If this is the Pj I think it is, Please post a address to the users profile please. Pj is a ignorant hypocritical muti-account using bigot who thinks since he's christian and transsexual he knows all. He seriously will try to get you suspended just for disagreeing with him, sadly enough he's a level seven and uses his other accounts to make sure he stays the way. He needs to be suspended.



@ Eian: Nicky is just an ignorant college kid that's new here, PJ is an "Original" user.

Answer 9

They are cowards. Simple as that. They also do it through e-mail,you have so much to say,say it over the live chat.

Answer 10

i would never "out" anybody if there was any choice in the matter. but monsters like you have to be stopped. it's against everything i believe in to "out" people, it's not something i take lightly at all. but, you are a monster.....my principles don't mean much when it comes to saving the lives of those children you are pushing hormones to, who are unscreened...and unseen. you are playing God, and although you think you are, you are NOT qualified.



if it were only adults, i'd have a harder time taking this action....but hildren have to be protected from monsters like you. this is not about an on line disagreement, this is about you harming children. hopefully those tg sites that peddle their poison on line at least try to screen out children....but on this site....they are everywhere. and you take advantage of them to push your own political agenda.



this isn't vengance....it's preventative....and if you leave the children alone, it won't happen; and, by the way.....if you weren't living a lie, in "stealth", you wouldn't be vulnerable, now would you? transsexuals who hide themselves away, run the risk everyday of being "found out"......transsexuals who have come to terms, don't have to hide or fear. you compromise yourself, and then whine about the consequences.



have a nice day. pj







leave the children alone!



as i said...what you seem to miss....read these answers....actually read them....who's writing them?.....children. yes, you tell them what they want to hear and your big old male ego gets fed. the truth is a little bit harder to get through to them...but that's no reason for an ADULT to stop trying.



just look at little jay's answer right above me. these are children....my goodness, this child thinks you should call the cops on me....it's a case of harrassment.....she's a child, for goodness sake...how do you think for one minute that someone like this is responsible enough, mature enough to make such important decisions as taking hormone blockers?"



just a little screening isn't the worst way to go.